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1764	[Server issue, not book!] Can't email any address at lfs.org anymore	bryan@linuxfromscratch.org	lfs-book@…	"This is the only way I can contact anyone at LFS (see below); I really hate to use the ticketing system to do this, but I have no choice.

Up through last Friday, I was able to send mail to any of the LFS mailing lists just fine.

Today, I tried sending a mail to lfs-dev, and it got bounced because the SORBS_DUL score was 5.0, because I was sending directly from a ""dial-up"" account.  (Actually it's DSL, but whatever.)  This is the way I've been sending mail to this list for the last two years (directly from a dynamic address), and it's never cared before last weekend.  (The NJABL score on that mail was also 1.7, but that's not enough to bounce the message; the limit is set to 5.0.)

I later tried sending something to Gerard directly, to see if I could find out what happened, but apparently SA is running on every mail that gets received by any address at LFS.org.  So that mail got bounced as well, which means I can't send a message to *any* address on your server.  I still have the bounce messages if they would help for anything, but I don't have any way to send them to an LFS server, so maybe they're worthless.

It looks like someone changed the spamassassin settings last weekend to increase the ""spam weight"" that gets assigned when someone shows up in SORBS, or something.  (Not that that helped the count of bounce messages that are showing up on the hints list or anything...)  Is there any way that change could be reverted, so I can mail the list again?  Or can I be told why this change was made at least?  Not that I'll be able to respond except through this ticket (or a non-lfs.org address if someone tells me to send to that address).

(For the general reason I refuse to use blacklists at all myself, see http://www.paulgraham.com/falsepositives.html and http://www.paulgraham.com/spamhausblacklist.html -- but that's a separate issue.)

(Copying Gerard because his address is the ""contact me if this spam classification is an error"" in the bounce message.)

Thanks."	defect	closed	normal		Book	unspecified	normal	fixed		gerard@…