Opened 8 years ago

Closed 8 years ago

Last modified 7 years ago

#8419 closed enhancement (fixed)

Noto fonts - complete

Reported by: ken@… Owned by: bdubbs@…
Priority: normal Milestone: 8.0
Component: BOOK Version: SVN
Severity: normal Keywords:
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Description

There is what passes for a Release announcement at [https://opensource.googleblog.com/2016/10/an-open-source-font-system-for-everyone.html ] found from a /. link to http://hothardware.com/news/noto-google-monotype-unveil-universal-font-project-all-languages

URL https://www.google.com/get/noto

472.6 MB for all, or download the individual font(s).

From memory, for kf5 users, Noto Sans is used for gtk applications. Perhaps it is now used instead of oxygen fonts by kf5 itself (the script to start kde), but I have no idea and that is probably still something for the future.

Unless people need non-latin languages, I suggest downloading ONLY Noto Sans (657 KB, NotoSans-hinted.zip) but I have no intention to test if that is adequate, nor to look at what it covers.

The "everything including the kitchen sink emojis" file is (still) called Noto-hinted.zip, perhaps th ere is nothing to do ?

Change History (7)

comment:1 by bdubbs@…, 8 years ago

The installed size of all fonts is 583M. Unless you are trying to create a minimal system (in which case you probably don't need a browser), I don't see a significant advantage in minimizing fonts.

I'm not strongly in favor of a maximal or a minimal approach. Perhaps a few additional words about the trade offs would be reasonable, but with the sizes of disk drives today, I don't think 0.5G for fonts will concern many users.

in reply to:  1 comment:2 by ken@…, 8 years ago

Replying to bdubbs@…:

The installed size of all fonts is 583M. Unless you are trying to create a minimal system (in which case you probably don't need a browser), I don't see a significant advantage in minimizing fonts.

I'm not strongly in favor of a maximal or a minimal approach. Perhaps a few additional words about the trade offs would be reasonable, but with the sizes of disk drives today, I don't think 0.5G for fonts will concern many users.

I actually noted the size there in case it was significantly different. But I'm baffled why you think somebody building a minimal system with TTF/OTF fonts (and therefore with Xorg) would not want a graphical browser.

The real reason to limit the number of fonts is for people who create documents, so that it becomes less tedious to select the desired font. For dejavu there is a choice of 4 fonts in drop-down lists, for the version of noto -hinted currently linked from the book, there are 106 different font names in the list (ignoring styles and weights), mostly because all the Sans or Serif forms not in the base Noto Sans or Noto Serif forms get separate font names (Noto Sans Armenian, Noto Sans Bengali, etc).

comment:3 by bdubbs@…, 8 years ago

To me a really minimal system would not have Xorg. I guess it depends on your definition of minimal.

You make a good point about limiting fonts selection choices (controlled by the user of course). I guess I missed it because I almost never use a word processor and then when I do, never change the default font.

I can update the Noto page to give additional advice on selecting Noto fonts or you can do it if you want.

comment:4 by ken@…, 8 years ago

Limiting the number of fonts (for people who want to use specific fonts in documents or web pages which they create) is one of the topics within my projected "improve what we say about fonts" change, and best mentioned when/if I get the details into shape.

In the wiki I had listed the noto fonts w hich people might not want, I've now added to the wiki text to try to explain why people might want to do that : it seemed obvious to me, but only because I have selected different fonts for a lot of documents.

comment:5 by bdubbs@…, 8 years ago

Owner: changed from blfs-book@… to bdubbs@…
Status: newassigned

comment:6 by bdubbs@…, 8 years ago

Resolution: fixed
Status: assignedclosed

Fixed at revision 17884.

comment:7 by bdubbs@…, 7 years ago

Milestone: 7.118.0

Milestone renamed

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