Refactor the java pages

[Pierre Labastie]

After a poll to the lists, it appears nobody cares much about compiling jar files from source. In this case, junit is not needed. Furthermore, icedtea-web, which cannot be used by major browsers, can go, too.

We'll need only ant (for building some Java bindings, or HSQLDB in libreoffice), and fop, for rendering the book in pdf. Those can be binary only installs (that is only jar files, configuration files, and shell scripts for starting them).

A page should be added to provide general information on how to install other Java binaries, with junit as an example: having an id="junit" attribute somewhere allows to keep our existing <xref> tags.

When this is done, ticket #10422 will be "overcomebyevents".

[DJ Lucas]

IcedTea-Web still is the only JWS implementation on Linux. The browser cannot open directly, but you can associate the downloads with javaws. I'm not sure if that justifies further inclusion. IMO drop it. I didn't take part in that discussion, but wanted to make sure that was at least mentioned before it went. The only thing I still occasionally see is ASDM for old Cisco ASAs.

[Douglas R. Reno]

My college uses Blackboard, and my physics course is using simulations with JWS. I'm inclined to maintain it on my own systems, but if you guys want to drop it, feel free. I'm just adding my 2c/uses here.

[Pierre Labastie]

Replying to dj@…:

IcedTea-Web still is the only JWS implementation on Linux. The browser cannot open directly, but you can associate the downloads with javaws. I'm not sure if that justifies further inclusion. IMO drop it. I didn't take part in that discussion, but wanted to make sure that was at least mentioned before it went. The only thing I still occasionally see is ASDM for old Cisco ASAs.

FWIIW, javaws has been removed from the Oracle JDK in Java 11.

[Pierre Labastie]

Note that icedteaweb has been archived by bdubbs at r20436

[Bruce Dubbs]

Do we just want to close this as overcomebyevents?

[Douglas R. Reno]

I'd +1 this, I don't see any refactoring that needs to be done.

[Pierre Labastie]

I agree. When I created this ticket, I was anticipating that fop would use maven. But it still uses apache-ant. So the current java pages are OK.

[Pierre Labastie]

Now I remember why I opened this ticket: junit-4 is more and more difficult to build with new java versions. It is now included with ant anyway (when files are downloaded using fetch.xml). So neither fop nor libreoffice need standalone junit. Therefore I think the junit page can be archived. If so, the maven page can go too. fop may switch to maven at some point, but right now, the normal build is with ant.

[Pierre Labastie]

Fixed at r20994